Hi everyone,
First off, what a great community this is! I only recently found out about it, and it seems like a game changer, especially for early career folk like me.
I was wondering, has anyone had experience with the Wildlife Acoustics Song Meter Micro?
I've used AudioMoth, but currently they're still unavailable, and I'm in need of some more sensors for an upcoming season in the Amazon. The main aspects I'm curious about are durability and sound quality (self-noise, SNR etc). I've read the spec sheet, but some advice from a user would be more helpful. On the durability front, I notice that this is the only SM model that comes with a recommendation to use silica gel packets for each deployment, which concerns me slightly...
The Song Meter Mini is obviously fantastic, but a) $$$ and b) it's also out of stock. Particularly, if anyone has been able to compare the Micro with other ARUs, that would be valuable info.
Any help/advice much appreciated!
-Nick
3 November 2022 2:13pm
Hi Nick,
We gave your question a boost over on twitter, and it kicked off a bit of a discussion. Dropping them in here so you can see some of the advice / questions coming through.
Steph
Help early career poster Nick compare #bioacoustics tools in our #tech4wildlife forum! Nick is looking for opinions on the @WildlifeAcoust Song Meter Micro and how it compares to similar acoustic recorders. Check out his full question here:https://t.co/JZyzchxmCd pic.twitter.com/5LpDaHirqw
— WILDLABS Community (@WILDLABSNET) October 30, 2022
“I've used AudioMoth, but currently they're still unavailable, and I'm in need of some more sensors for an upcoming season in the Amazon.”
— Martin George (@Jannerbirder) November 2, 2022
Do you have any insights to share, @Au_Erithacus?
I used song metre micro. But all devices failed at least once during the month. I think humidity it’s too strong for them, the recording it’s fine but if I had to go again I would use audiomoths as are cheaper and the quality is okay. For the same budget you get a lot more.
— Aurora #LicencedBirdRinger (@Au_Erithacus) November 2, 2022
I had issues with sd cards. I'm now using Sandisk. SM micro is now working fine in Mediterranean climate (24 h). No fails. Nights are humid. They once got drenched in heavy rain. I deploy them for 3-5 days and always with a Silica gel capsule. I would like to buy more units € pic.twitter.com/NWVOukRz6B
— Miguel McMinn 🪶🐦✈️ (@miguelmcminn) November 2, 2022
I had problems using Sandisk cards as well! I used two different brands!
— Aurora #LicencedBirdRinger (@Au_Erithacus) November 2, 2022
Black Sandisk SD worked. Oher Sandisk models were useless 🙄
— Miguel McMinn 🪶🐦✈️ (@miguelmcminn) November 2, 2022
Thank you Miguel. In the UK I think the dessicant will be very important, particularly on a day such as today! ☔🌧️
— Martin George (@Jannerbirder) November 2, 2022
I always store electronic equipment between deployments in a Peli case with Silica Gel.
— Miguel McMinn 🪶🐦✈️ (@miguelmcminn) November 2, 2022
Very wise. As usual!
— Martin George (@Jannerbirder) November 2, 2022
Silly question: is it easy to source the silica gel capsules, please? I’m very new to this 🙂
I reuse blood sample tubes. This tube fits the SM micro. Hot needle to make the holes. I bought the Silica Gel from a local medical-chemical provider. Buy orange ferric ammonium sulfate as moisture indicators (less toxic). I'm using a >10 year batch. pic.twitter.com/01Q5ewWr42
— Miguel McMinn 🪶🐦✈️ (@miguelmcminn) November 2, 2022
I dry the Silica Gel in the microwave. Glass container 1-2 minutes. It can get hot!!! Just check the colour change. The Silica Gel in small bags doesn't have the colour moisture indicator. You probably can get Silica Gel from a friend in a lab. It lasts forever.
— Miguel McMinn 🪶🐦✈️ (@miguelmcminn) November 2, 2022
You can also buy small capsules and dry them is a jar with Silica Gel.
— Miguel McMinn 🪶🐦✈️ (@miguelmcminn) November 2, 2022
Sil0ica Gel is not toxic, but the humidity indicator dye can be a problem . Don't dry toxic cobalt blue Silica Gel in a microwave oven used for food. They dont sell it in the UK/EU. Orange is safe.
— Miguel McMinn 🪶🐦✈️ (@miguelmcminn) November 2, 2022
That’s a good tip! Perhaps I’ll use the microwave at work 😉
— Martin George (@Jannerbirder) November 2, 2022
🤣
— Miguel McMinn 🪶🐦✈️ (@miguelmcminn) November 2, 2022
3 November 2022 4:25pm
What sort of feedback would help swing you either way?
Steph
4 November 2022 4:48pm
I did some comparison testing between SM Micros, SM Minis and AudioMoths last year. I found the Minis gave the best 'average' results for soundscapes when the data was run through the acoustic indices of Kaleidoscope and soundecology (R package).
My personal take is that Micros are more geared towards consumers who may want to record, say, for pleasure; and AMs are more geared towards research. The latest AM can also be kitted out with better external mics. after a relatively simple mod - I tried this and there was an improvement in signal pick-up, but you do have the added hassle of modding up a new way of waterproofing it all as the 'issue' housing won't obviously fit afterward. There is a definite and known frequency skew towards c. 6 kHz signals in the Micros too which stopped me using them for soundscape analysis. Bear in mind too that none of these three recorders can be 'calibrated' like the more expensive ones (SM4 etc.) so noise level analysis is out.
When using a constant 5-day recording protocol I found the 3-cell recorders rarely lasted the course if 'average' rechargeables (Energisers) were used; but would if eneloops or decent non-rechargeables (Duracells) were used instead. The extra cell in the Mini meant it would last even with Energisers. If using a 1 minute in 10 recording protocol, then all would last roughly a month.
Used all kinds of SanDisk microSD and SD cards in all the recorders and only had one occurrence of corruption.
I love the Minis as a cheaper level recorder for their ease of use, features and they last well in the field. My only real gripe with them is that the 'accessories' and replacement bits always seem a bit overpriced (but that might just be me!) I've recently started testing the 18650-cell battery lid on a couple to try to cut down on servicing visits and have high hopes (potentially up to 6 months between servicing - with an appropriately large SD card). I'd also love to incorporate more AMs into my work too, but I just can't get hold of them. We seem to be a perfect storm at the moment of a rapid increase in using PAMs pitched against a worldwide component and PAM shortage. I was hoping to deploy around 50 more PAMs soon for a new project but its' currently looking like I may not be able to get hold of them either.
Just my pennies worth - hope it helps!
P.S: use the silica gel packets found in Covid test packets; they are the perfect size for Micros. I believe Minis already have silica gel incorporated into the housing, but I use a couple in them too just as insurance (this is in the UK so temperate - but wet!)
7 November 2022 1:31pm
- The mic of Micro is different than in Mini, and it's audible - the quality is slightly worse, but still quite good. We have recordings from the same place and time, recorded by Mini and Micro, but I'm not sure if their mics were directed the same way :-/
- Our Micros were recording max 144h - this is the maximum on 3 x AA Varta Lithium Ultra (non-rechargeable). With 3 x Eneloop Pro (black) it would be a bit less - as@Bob_Ashington mentioned, not more than 5 days
- I've just finished preliminary tests and it seems Micros can be run on a single Li-ion 18650 cells (3.7V x 3.3Ah) . A small custom lid could fit 3 of them nicely, which is 4 x more energy than Eneloops Pro. With a separate box, the battery can be as big as needed :-)
Stephanie O'Donnell